why do you think “special rights” have anything to do with this?

Tickets to concerts are not a ‘public good.’ What makes you think you are entitled to go to a show? This is a free market economy, remember? not stalinist russia, got it?

Put another way, do you whine about not being able to afford a Porsche 911 Turbo? I think not. Why is it your god given right to see a show?

Which leads to the bottom line, regarding bottom lines… People are willing to pay a lot for tickets. I dont see ‘scalpers’ holding ‘guns to their heads,’ do you? Why is it that people abandon all notions of personal responsibility when it comes to paying for concert tickets. If a scalper is charging too much for a ticket, then no one HAS TO buy it, right? Arent we adults? Stop the f-ing crying! Trust me, don’t buy it and the price will come down. remember supply and demand, or too busy pouting?

The funniest implication of what youve said is that Ticketmaster itself is somehow too negligent towards its shareholders to capture the revenue that is generated in the secondary, tertiary, and so on, markets… Do you really think they are that stupid?

look at what andrew said:

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THEY ARE MAKING A PROFIT, AND A LARGE ONE, ON CONCERTS, AND NOT A PENNY OF IT GOES BACK TO THE ARTIST, TO THE VENUE, OR TO THE PROMOTER.

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So who is the f-ing idiot that let happen? Sean Moriarty? Are you calling IACI the words dumbest and most horrendously retarded company ever?

Naw, what youll never really admit is that if ticketmaster actually charged the “market price” for tickets, and not your notion of teenage-communist-manifesto prices, then you would be in uproar and outrage at ticketmaster for obeying some simple laws, that one day, when you have a job, youll respect; supply and demand. So for now, ticketmaster avoids your wrath, generated by some sophomoric idea that concerts are somehow promised to us in the declaration of independence, and lets you rage at how unfair all this is.

The real problem with concerts: too many asses, not enough seats.

why do you think “special rights” have anything to do with this?

Tickets to concerts are not a ‘public good.’ What makes you think you are entitled to go to a show? This is a free market economy, remember? not stalinist russia, got it?

Put another way, do you whine about not being able to afford a Porsche 911 Turbo? I think not. Why is it your god given right to see a show?

Which leads to the bottom line, regarding bottom lines… People are willing to pay a lot for tickets. I dont see ‘scalpers’ holding ‘guns to their heads,’ do you? Why is it that people abandon all notions of personal responsibility when it comes to paying for concert tickets. If a scalper is charging too much for a ticket, then no one HAS TO buy it, right? Arent we adults? Stop the f-ing crying! Trust me, don’t buy it and the price will come down. remember supply and demand, or too busy pouting?

The funniest implication of what youve said is that Ticketmaster itself is somehow too negligent towards its shareholders to capture the revenue that is generated in the secondary, tertiary, and so on, markets… Do you really think they are that stupid?

look at what andrew said:

”

THEY ARE MAKING A PROFIT, AND A LARGE ONE, ON CONCERTS, AND NOT A PENNY OF IT GOES BACK TO THE ARTIST, TO THE VENUE, OR TO THE PROMOTER.

”

So who is the f-ing idiot that let happen? Sean Moriarty? Are you calling IACI the words dumbest and most horrendously retarded company ever?

Naw, what youll never really admit is that if ticketmaster actually charged the “market price” for tickets, and not your notion of teenage-communist-manifesto prices, then you would be in uproar and outrage at ticketmaster for obeying some simple laws, that one day, when you have a job, youll respect; supply and demand. So for now, ticketmaster avoids your wrath, generated by some sophomoric idea that concerts are somehow promised to us in the declaration of independence, and lets you rage at how unfair all this is.

The real problem with concerts: too many asses, not enough seats.

Pearl Jam began the good fight against Ticketmaster over a year ago by booking a tour exclusively in non-TM-affiliated venues. (I believe it opened in Idaho.) The tour collapsed essentially and they still use the bastards to sell tix.

The String Cheese Incident also had public battle against Ticketmaster. But instead of just trying to avoid “the elephant in the room” they came up with an alternative: SCITicketing. Now they can still get their tickets to their dedicated fans but not pay a middle man.

Lots of jambands have jumped on, either using SCITicketing or creating their own service, while the rest of the concert industry stalls and most Americans pick a hobby that’s cheaper than a $50 Incubus ticket.

Pearl Jam began the good fight against Ticketmaster over a year ago by booking a tour exclusively in non-TM-affiliated venues. (I believe it opened in Idaho.) The tour collapsed essentially and they still use the bastards to sell tix.

The String Cheese Incident also had public battle against Ticketmaster. But instead of just trying to avoid “the elephant in the room” they came up with an alternative: SCITicketing. Now they can still get their tickets to their dedicated fans but not pay a middle man.

Lots of jambands have jumped on, either using SCITicketing or creating their own service, while the rest of the concert industry stalls and most Americans pick a hobby that’s cheaper than a $50 Incubus ticket.

If you set things up so that everything went through StubHub, then that wouldn’t happen at all. Instead of researching the best way of getting tickets and getting a friend or two to help and hoping for luck, they’re left with a situation where the only way to get in is to have money. That sets up all sorts of class issues (which I would be on the right side of to get in fwiw) and it changes the expectations of the concert goers if they’re paying a lot more.

I’d rather get shut out on occasion than go that route.

If you set things up so that everything went through StubHub, then that wouldn’t happen at all. Instead of researching the best way of getting tickets and getting a friend or two to help and hoping for luck, they’re left with a situation where the only way to get in is to have money. That sets up all sorts of class issues (which I would be on the right side of to get in fwiw) and it changes the expectations of the concert goers if they’re paying a lot more.

I’d rather get shut out on occasion than go that route.