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		<title>By: xian</title>
		<link>http://www.livemusicblog.com/2005/11/30/grateful-dead-vs-archiveorg-and-the-fans/comment-page-1/#comment-1012</link>
		<dc:creator>xian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Dec 2005 02:11:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice post, Jesse. Thanks for the name check. I wasn&#039;t sure if *anyone* was reading my journal back then...
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice post, Jesse. Thanks for the name check. I wasn&#8217;t sure if *anyone* was reading my journal back then&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: xian</title>
		<link>http://www.livemusicblog.com/2005/11/30/grateful-dead-vs-archiveorg-and-the-fans/comment-page-1/#comment-23154</link>
		<dc:creator>xian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Dec 2005 02:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice post, Jesse. Thanks for the name check. I wasn&#039;t sure if *anyone* was reading my journal back then...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice post, Jesse. Thanks for the name check. I wasn&#8217;t sure if *anyone* was reading my journal back then&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: SadHippie</title>
		<link>http://www.livemusicblog.com/2005/11/30/grateful-dead-vs-archiveorg-and-the-fans/comment-page-1/#comment-1011</link>
		<dc:creator>SadHippie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Dec 2005 00:22:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is such a slap in the face to Jerry&#039;s memory and to John Perry Barlow, who besides being one of the lyricists for the Dead is a founder of the Electronic Frontier Foundation, an organization that has fought tooth and nail to keep the internet free and open, created the notion of &quot;creative commons&quot; and helped establish the internet archive.&lt;p&gt;

This is Bob Weir&#039;s doing, not Phil Lesh&#039;s.
Being that Bob was raised in Atherton, Ca., an enclave for the superrich next to Palo Alto (Larry Ellison lives in Atherton), Bob is just coming home to roost.
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;
Many hippies would like to think that because the Dead made the music that they love, that the Dead are hippies too. That might have been the case for Jerry and Phil (an artist with an honorary PhD from Stanford), but Bob was born with a diamond-encrusted silver spoon up his rectum. Of course, they were all wealthy because of the band, but they were artists first and foremost. I know a few folks that know Bob, including somebody from RatDog, his solo band. Bob Weir is and always was a spoiled rich kid for whom this whole &quot;strange trip&quot; always was about the money. He has the arrogance to match. Of course now that they are taking a hit on concert tickets, they (Bob) are trying to monetize their recordings.
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;
As is, Bob Weir is just milking the last of the Dead legacy dry, and touring with Jerry &quot;sound alikes&quot; as opposed to really moving forward with his music. He could easily live for years on end on the money he has and never feel a pinch or keep on making a name for himself as an artist with current art. He&#039;d rather
rest on his often coked-out (this I say from talking to folks that know) ass and rehash old songs that will never be the same because Jerry isn&#039;t alive to give those songs (even Bob&#039;s songs) their magic. He just doesn&#039;t have the creative juice to be original and relevant anymore, if he ever did. Without Jerry&#039;s tutelage, it&#039;s not obvious he would have lasted long enough in public memory to have the option of pissing on his fans 30 something years later.
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;
Bob betrayed his fans years ago, and only now they are catching on.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is such a slap in the face to Jerry&#8217;s memory and to John Perry Barlow, who besides being one of the lyricists for the Dead is a founder of the Electronic Frontier Foundation, an organization that has fought tooth and nail to keep the internet free and open, created the notion of &#8220;creative commons&#8221; and helped establish the internet archive.
<p>This is Bob Weir&#8217;s doing, not Phil Lesh&#8217;s.<br />
Being that Bob was raised in Atherton, Ca., an enclave for the superrich next to Palo Alto (Larry Ellison lives in Atherton), Bob is just coming home to roost.
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Many hippies would like to think that because the Dead made the music that they love, that the Dead are hippies too. That might have been the case for Jerry and Phil (an artist with an honorary PhD from Stanford), but Bob was born with a diamond-encrusted silver spoon up his rectum. Of course, they were all wealthy because of the band, but they were artists first and foremost. I know a few folks that know Bob, including somebody from RatDog, his solo band. Bob Weir is and always was a spoiled rich kid for whom this whole &#8220;strange trip&#8221; always was about the money. He has the arrogance to match. Of course now that they are taking a hit on concert tickets, they (Bob) are trying to monetize their recordings.
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As is, Bob Weir is just milking the last of the Dead legacy dry, and touring with Jerry &#8220;sound alikes&#8221; as opposed to really moving forward with his music. He could easily live for years on end on the money he has and never feel a pinch or keep on making a name for himself as an artist with current art. He&#8217;d rather<br />
rest on his often coked-out (this I say from talking to folks that know) ass and rehash old songs that will never be the same because Jerry isn&#8217;t alive to give those songs (even Bob&#8217;s songs) their magic. He just doesn&#8217;t have the creative juice to be original and relevant anymore, if he ever did. Without Jerry&#8217;s tutelage, it&#8217;s not obvious he would have lasted long enough in public memory to have the option of pissing on his fans 30 something years later.
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Bob betrayed his fans years ago, and only now they are catching on.</p>
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		<title>By: SadHippie</title>
		<link>http://www.livemusicblog.com/2005/11/30/grateful-dead-vs-archiveorg-and-the-fans/comment-page-1/#comment-23152</link>
		<dc:creator>SadHippie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Dec 2005 00:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is such a slap in the face to Jerry&#039;s memory and to John Perry Barlow, who besides being one of the lyricists for the Dead is a founder of the Electronic Frontier Foundation, an organization that has fought tooth and nail to keep the internet free and open, created the notion of &quot;creative commons&quot; and helped establish the internet archive.

This is Bob Weir&#039;s doing, not Phil Lesh&#039;s.
Being that Bob was raised in Atherton, Ca., an enclave for the superrich next to Palo Alto (Larry Ellison lives in Atherton), Bob is just coming home to roost.

Many hippies would like to think that because the Dead made the music that they love, that the Dead are hippies too. That might have been the case for Jerry and Phil (an artist with an honorary PhD from Stanford), but Bob was born with a diamond-encrusted silver spoon up his rectum. Of course, they were all wealthy because of the band, but they were artists first and foremost. I know a few folks that know Bob, including somebody from RatDog, his solo band. Bob Weir is and always was a spoiled rich kid for whom this whole &quot;strange trip&quot; always was about the money. He has the arrogance to match. Of course now that they are taking a hit on concert tickets, they (Bob) are trying to monetize their recordings.

As is, Bob Weir is just milking the last of the Dead legacy dry, and touring with Jerry &quot;sound alikes&quot; as opposed to really moving forward with his music. He could easily live for years on end on the money he has and never feel a pinch or keep on making a name for himself as an artist with current art. He&#039;d rather
rest on his often coked-out (this I say from talking to folks that know) ass and rehash old songs that will never be the same because Jerry isn&#039;t alive to give those songs (even Bob&#039;s songs) their magic. He just doesn&#039;t have the creative juice to be original and relevant anymore, if he ever did. Without Jerry&#039;s tutelage, it&#039;s not obvious he would have lasted long enough in public memory to have the option of pissing on his fans 30 something years later.

Bob betrayed his fans years ago, and only now they are catching on.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is such a slap in the face to Jerry&#8217;s memory and to John Perry Barlow, who besides being one of the lyricists for the Dead is a founder of the Electronic Frontier Foundation, an organization that has fought tooth and nail to keep the internet free and open, created the notion of &#8220;creative commons&#8221; and helped establish the internet archive.</p>
<p>This is Bob Weir&#8217;s doing, not Phil Lesh&#8217;s.<br />
Being that Bob was raised in Atherton, Ca., an enclave for the superrich next to Palo Alto (Larry Ellison lives in Atherton), Bob is just coming home to roost.</p>
<p>Many hippies would like to think that because the Dead made the music that they love, that the Dead are hippies too. That might have been the case for Jerry and Phil (an artist with an honorary PhD from Stanford), but Bob was born with a diamond-encrusted silver spoon up his rectum. Of course, they were all wealthy because of the band, but they were artists first and foremost. I know a few folks that know Bob, including somebody from RatDog, his solo band. Bob Weir is and always was a spoiled rich kid for whom this whole &#8220;strange trip&#8221; always was about the money. He has the arrogance to match. Of course now that they are taking a hit on concert tickets, they (Bob) are trying to monetize their recordings.</p>
<p>As is, Bob Weir is just milking the last of the Dead legacy dry, and touring with Jerry &#8220;sound alikes&#8221; as opposed to really moving forward with his music. He could easily live for years on end on the money he has and never feel a pinch or keep on making a name for himself as an artist with current art. He&#8217;d rather<br />
rest on his often coked-out (this I say from talking to folks that know) ass and rehash old songs that will never be the same because Jerry isn&#8217;t alive to give those songs (even Bob&#8217;s songs) their magic. He just doesn&#8217;t have the creative juice to be original and relevant anymore, if he ever did. Without Jerry&#8217;s tutelage, it&#8217;s not obvious he would have lasted long enough in public memory to have the option of pissing on his fans 30 something years later.</p>
<p>Bob betrayed his fans years ago, and only now they are catching on.</p>
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		<title>By: SadHippie</title>
		<link>http://www.livemusicblog.com/2005/11/30/grateful-dead-vs-archiveorg-and-the-fans/comment-page-1/#comment-23153</link>
		<dc:creator>SadHippie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Dec 2005 00:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is such a slap in the face to Jerry&#039;s memory and to John Perry Barlow, who besides being one of the lyricists for the Dead is a founder of the Electronic Frontier Foundation, an organization that has fought tooth and nail to keep the internet free and open, created the notion of &quot;creative commons&quot; and helped establish the internet archive.

This is Bob Weir&#039;s doing, not Phil Lesh&#039;s.
Being that Bob was raised in Atherton, Ca., an enclave for the superrich next to Palo Alto (Larry Ellison lives in Atherton), Bob is just coming home to roost.

Many hippies would like to think that because the Dead made the music that they love, that the Dead are hippies too. That might have been the case for Jerry and Phil (an artist with an honorary PhD from Stanford), but Bob was born with a diamond-encrusted silver spoon up his rectum. Of course, they were all wealthy because of the band, but they were artists first and foremost. I know a few folks that know Bob, including somebody from RatDog, his solo band. Bob Weir is and always was a spoiled rich kid for whom this whole &quot;strange trip&quot; always was about the money. He has the arrogance to match. Of course now that they are taking a hit on concert tickets, they (Bob) are trying to monetize their recordings.

As is, Bob Weir is just milking the last of the Dead legacy dry, and touring with Jerry &quot;sound alikes&quot; as opposed to really moving forward with his music. He could easily live for years on end on the money he has and never feel a pinch or keep on making a name for himself as an artist with current art. He&#039;d rather
rest on his often coked-out (this I say from talking to folks that know) ass and rehash old songs that will never be the same because Jerry isn&#039;t alive to give those songs (even Bob&#039;s songs) their magic. He just doesn&#039;t have the creative juice to be original and relevant anymore, if he ever did. Without Jerry&#039;s tutelage, it&#039;s not obvious he would have lasted long enough in public memory to have the option of pissing on his fans 30 something years later.

Bob betrayed his fans years ago, and only now they are catching on.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is such a slap in the face to Jerry&#8217;s memory and to John Perry Barlow, who besides being one of the lyricists for the Dead is a founder of the Electronic Frontier Foundation, an organization that has fought tooth and nail to keep the internet free and open, created the notion of &#8220;creative commons&#8221; and helped establish the internet archive.</p>
<p>This is Bob Weir&#8217;s doing, not Phil Lesh&#8217;s.<br />
Being that Bob was raised in Atherton, Ca., an enclave for the superrich next to Palo Alto (Larry Ellison lives in Atherton), Bob is just coming home to roost.</p>
<p>Many hippies would like to think that because the Dead made the music that they love, that the Dead are hippies too. That might have been the case for Jerry and Phil (an artist with an honorary PhD from Stanford), but Bob was born with a diamond-encrusted silver spoon up his rectum. Of course, they were all wealthy because of the band, but they were artists first and foremost. I know a few folks that know Bob, including somebody from RatDog, his solo band. Bob Weir is and always was a spoiled rich kid for whom this whole &#8220;strange trip&#8221; always was about the money. He has the arrogance to match. Of course now that they are taking a hit on concert tickets, they (Bob) are trying to monetize their recordings.</p>
<p>As is, Bob Weir is just milking the last of the Dead legacy dry, and touring with Jerry &#8220;sound alikes&#8221; as opposed to really moving forward with his music. He could easily live for years on end on the money he has and never feel a pinch or keep on making a name for himself as an artist with current art. He&#8217;d rather<br />
rest on his often coked-out (this I say from talking to folks that know) ass and rehash old songs that will never be the same because Jerry isn&#8217;t alive to give those songs (even Bob&#8217;s songs) their magic. He just doesn&#8217;t have the creative juice to be original and relevant anymore, if he ever did. Without Jerry&#8217;s tutelage, it&#8217;s not obvious he would have lasted long enough in public memory to have the option of pissing on his fans 30 something years later.</p>
<p>Bob betrayed his fans years ago, and only now they are catching on.</p>
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		<title>By: Hans</title>
		<link>http://www.livemusicblog.com/2005/11/30/grateful-dead-vs-archiveorg-and-the-fans/comment-page-1/#comment-1010</link>
		<dc:creator>Hans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Dec 2005 11:11:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>archive.org statement here:

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.archive.org/iathreads/post-view.php?id=49553&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.archive.org/iathreads/post-view.php?id=49553&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.archive.org/iathreads/post-view.php?id=49553&lt;/a&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>archive.org statement here:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.archive.org/iathreads/post-view.php?id=49553" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://www.archive.org/iathreads/post-view.php?id=49553" rel="nofollow">http://www.archive.org/iathreads/post-view.php?id=49553</a></p>
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		<title>By: Hans</title>
		<link>http://www.livemusicblog.com/2005/11/30/grateful-dead-vs-archiveorg-and-the-fans/comment-page-1/#comment-23150</link>
		<dc:creator>Hans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Dec 2005 11:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>archive.org statement here:

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.archive.org/iathreads/post-view.php?id=49553&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.archive.org/iathreads/post-view.php?id=49553&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.archive.org/iathreads/post-view.php?id=49553&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>archive.org statement here:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.archive.org/iathreads/post-view.php?id=49553" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://www.archive.org/iathreads/post-view.php?id=49553" rel="nofollow">http://www.archive.org/iathreads/post-view.php?id=49553</a></p>
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		<title>By: Hans</title>
		<link>http://www.livemusicblog.com/2005/11/30/grateful-dead-vs-archiveorg-and-the-fans/comment-page-1/#comment-23151</link>
		<dc:creator>Hans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Dec 2005 11:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>archive.org statement here:

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.archive.org/iathreads/post-view.php?id=49553&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.archive.org/iathreads/post-view.php?id=49553&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.archive.org/iathreads/post-view.php?id=49553&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>archive.org statement here:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.archive.org/iathreads/post-view.php?id=49553" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://www.archive.org/iathreads/post-view.php?id=49553" rel="nofollow">http://www.archive.org/iathreads/post-view.php?id=49553</a></p>
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		<title>By: Dgold</title>
		<link>http://www.livemusicblog.com/2005/11/30/grateful-dead-vs-archiveorg-and-the-fans/comment-page-1/#comment-1009</link>
		<dc:creator>Dgold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Dec 2005 07:57:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jesse Jarnow - quality commentator.  Glad to see his intelligent writing on LMB.

--Dgold
&lt;a href=&quot;http://dgold.info/radio/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://dgold.info/radio/&lt;/a&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jesse Jarnow &#8211; quality commentator.  Glad to see his intelligent writing on LMB.</p>
<p>&#8211;Dgold<br />
<a href="http://dgold.info/radio/" rel="nofollow">http://dgold.info/radio/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Dgold</title>
		<link>http://www.livemusicblog.com/2005/11/30/grateful-dead-vs-archiveorg-and-the-fans/comment-page-1/#comment-23149</link>
		<dc:creator>Dgold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Dec 2005 07:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jesse Jarnow - quality commentator.  Glad to see his intelligent writing on LMB.

--Dgold
&lt;a href=&quot;http://dgold.info/radio/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://dgold.info/radio/&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jesse Jarnow &#8211; quality commentator.  Glad to see his intelligent writing on LMB.</p>
<p>&#8211;Dgold<br />
<a href="http://dgold.info/radio/" rel="nofollow">http://dgold.info/radio/</a></p>
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